Higher ranking legionaries, like veterans and centurions, are commonly provided with high quality, well maintained firearms, like the anti-materiel rifle or 12.7mm submachine gun, which they can use with frightening efficiency. When the tribe refused to surrender, he ordered every man, woman, and child killed. Higher ranks, such as prime legionaries, decanii, and centurions have access to superior weapons, such as anti-materiel rifles, Marksman carbines, and super sledges. The Legion brought peace and quiet to the entire state by exterminating and enslaving the raider tribes. This causes even ruthless organizations like the Van Graffs to oppose the Legion in addition to organizations like the Desert Rangers. Intelligence- 1 Legion… I'm sure individual players might want to engage in ranking atrocities -- something I've never really found was productive in discussions about history -- but Caesar and his crew in the same league as other brutal warlords.  The Malpais Legate returned to Caesar in shame. The Great Khans and White Legs are also firm allies of the Legion. Without decanii and centurions, the legionaries will become a disorganized mass, easy to rout and destroy. Come back when I've had some sleep! Notably, the title of consul is not a military rank and is not known to be used anywhere else in the Legion. 7. Or rather, it's more appropriate to say that it is extremely common for abusive occupation to go effectively uncontested for years, decades, or even centuries. 'Caesar' is a persona he adopted, but he effectively operates as a warlord with no regard for individual human lives outside of how he can use them. As Caesar conquers the peoples of the wasteland, he strips them of their tribal identities and merges them into his forces. His ultimate goal is to conquer the NCR and reform it into a military dictatorship. Caesar cites the NCR as an example, focusing on government corruption by wealthy brahmin barons and landowners, greed permeating every level of society, all leading to the abandonment of the collective and the greater good. Just as Italian doesn't follow Latin pronunciation (and in fact pretty much abandoned case, which is an enormous part of Latin -- thanks Jabby), Old French and Late Latin softened many of the Latin consonants before they entered English. As a single-minded, monolithic empire, the Legion's aim is to dominate the known world and unite it under its banner. Then the Fredonians. He knew what had to be done. The enemy wears himself out dealing with the first two waves, with the veterans mopping up any remaining resistance when their turn comes. Caesar denied these problems, lashing out at any queries. All of the strategies he uses to assemble the Legion and march on NCR are means to an end, not social end goals themselves. Victory cannot be achieved without sacrificing blood and life. The Caesar's Legion - Fallout New Vegas was contributed by bos soldier on Nov 7th. A year? The most obvious example is the name 'Caesar' itself, one of the earliest Latin loan words to Germanic languages, which became 'Kaiser'. I got bored of Caesar so went into his camp and killed everyone, I would of started in his tent and worked my way out but you can't take weapons in or at least nothing big enough to kill them. Our Fallout New Vegas Walkthrough includes a … Another is a word Caesar himself used, "Celtæ". A month? That can only go on for so long, and Legionaries who are indoctrinated from birth are even more loyal than adolescents who are integrated. Most members of the Legion pronounce Caesar's name /ˈkaisar/. It's a textbook example of Haegelian dialectics, where the thesis and antithesis conflict, creating a synthesis when the conflict is resolved. Even things like a reluctance to use advanced technology have more to do with his desire to keep the Legion ignorant/dependent on him than with anything "historical". Anyhoo, generally speaking, if you find an academic textbook on Latin pronunciation these days, it's going to follow classical rules. When Romans were wearing pants, they thought people wearing skirts were barbarians. In the absence of the NCR, Legion would take New Vegas. Because only males are involved in that service, they look down upon females even though it's incredibly short-sighted. The only absolute opposition to technology is in robotics. When the Legate ordered his elite forces to punch through and pursue Rangers decimating his officers and sowing chaos in the ranks, the Rangers and 1st Recon sharpshooters retreated into Boulder City. While he was gone, she and her tribe sacked Londinium, killed tens of thousands, and were subsequently annihilated by the Roman legions when they returned -- despite the Iceni outnumbering Paulinus' forces significantly. Only with Londinium essentially vacated of military forces did the Iceni and Trinovantes dare to attack. Caesar firmly believes that reliance on technology weakens humans, and was partially responsible for the Great War. Machiavelli wrote (mostly) about princedoms and republics. Because they live to serve the greater good, and they know of no alternatives. Une fois au fort, remettez vos armes au garde de la porte (Image 4) puis dirigez-vous vers la tente de Caesar (Image 5).Laissez vos compagnons à l'extérieur puis entrez pour vous entretenir avec le maître de des lieux (Image 6).Celui-ci vous demandera d'entrer dans le bunker souterrain de Mr House pour y détruire tout ce qu'il peut contenir. No, no, no - they haven't yet earned the right to be called 'slaves'! Caesar's Legion appears only in Fallout: New Vegas. As General Lee Oliver's soldiers held the line, Rangers and Army sharpshooters targeted their commanders, sowing chaos in Legion ranks. Our identity is good, your identity is bad. Notably, the non-tribal people who live in Legion-controlled territory are not considered Legionaries. By dedicating its members to a higher ideal, he seeks to prevent humanity from fracturing and destroying itself again. Anyhoo, generally speaking, if you find an academic textbook on Latin pronunciation these days, it's going to follow classical rules. The Legion is intended to be the Republic's opposite, shunning democracy in favor of a strong, centralized rule that would prevent fragmentation and internal weakness. New Vegas is the NCR at its worst, not its best like the Legion. "Caesar" is a persona he adopted, but he effectively operates as a warlord with no regard for individual human lives outside of how he can use them. The personal guards of Caesar themselves are equipped with high tech ballistic fists to complement their martial prowess. Sallow studied the books rigorously for two weeks, not yet aware of their coming significance. Followers. Caesar learned from academic textbooks, so he passed on that tradition. When Romans wore togas, they thought people wearing pants were barbarians. Otherwise they would have appropriated Vegas outright. Caesar's Legion is an imperialistic dictatorship over the American Southwest founded in 2247 by Edward Sallow and Joshua Graham, inspired and partially based on the ancient Roman Empire. The tribes Caesar fought against and assimilated were primitive even by the standards of the post-nuclear world, with nothing even remotely comparable to what existed out west: No towns, no roads, no meaningful industry. Games. So if we assume the battle of Hoover Dam is won by the Legion, what happens next? User Lists: 7 #1 Edited By Turbo_Toaster. Child mortality (prior to age 12) was about 60%. Not long into their travels, the group was captured by the Blackfoot tribe and held for ransom.At the time, the tribe warred ag…  Although they remained silent, the decline was visible to his officers, leading some to question their leader.. All of the places where the player encounters the Legion are forward camps where direct military service is given the most weight and is of the most immediate importance. List of tribes assimilated by Caesar's Legion, The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Joshua Sawyer on Formspring October 28, 2011, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Joshua Sawyer on Forumspring February 8 2011. The piles of corpses were a shocking sight to a tribesman who only knew tribal strife, with the occasional raid, raping, and pillaging, but what Sallow had led was total warfare. Machiavelli wrote (mostly) about princedoms and republics. Caesar himself is not particularly prejudiced against any sex, or rather, treats them both instrumentally, like pawns on a chessboard. If there's anything I learned as a Follower of the Apocalypse, it's that there's a lot of good information in old books.  Veterans who prove themselves as leaders may be eligible for centurion status, becoming the deadliest members of the legion and its most skilled commanders. , The history of the Legion is inextricably linked to its founder and leader, Caesar. The Legion enforces the Cult of Mars, a cult of personality focused on worshiping Caesar as the Son of Mars, as the state religion. , Legion territories are also very profitable for traders. Breeding issues are pretty huge in cultures that took a big step back from infant mortality progress made in the last 100-200 years. Caesar also needs to neutralize the ruler of New Vegas, Robert House, assassinate NCR President Kimball, attempt to forge an alliance with the Boomers, Great Khans, and White Glove Society, destroy the Brotherhood of Steel, and, perhaps most importantly, deal with his brain tumor. Why? Accompanied by a physician named Bill Calhoun, he was tasked with learning the dialects of the tribes inhabiting the region. They don't need to mine for it if they find it in some other form." The Legion isn't structured at all like a republic -- not like a Renaissance Italian republic nor like the Roman Republic -- and not like a princedom, either. "The Founding Mother of the New California Republic.". In larger battles, legionaries are deployed in waves, with recruits up front, prime soldiers behind them and veterans, the old guard, bringing up the rear. Following a series of skirmishes and smaller battles, most notably the destruction of Fort Aradesh, the Legion forced a confrontation.  When the Legion conquers the NCR, it will be transformed from a republic plagued by bureaucracy, corruption, and internecine political strife into a highly efficient military dictatorship, while the Legion will become a standing army protecting all the citizens of the new empire and the absolute power of its dictator. My Legion obeys me, even unto death. I want you to forge an alliance between Caesar's Legion and the White Glove Society. A former citizen of the New California Republic, he is one of the main antagonists of Fallout: New Vegas unless the player sides with the Legion. , Even more impressive than their physical traits is their discipline. , In 2247, when his confederation was large enough, Sallow crowned himself as Caesar, leader of the Great Tribe: the Legion. The Legion's return to and rise beyond its former glory was accompanied by a noticeable decline in Caesar's health. Rather ironic, when you consider the society Caesar's Legion is emulating. Caesar is the ultimate leader of the Legion and his orders are the law. Caesar's divine duty is to deliver the wasteland from chaos and barbarism. Another is a word Caesar himself used, 'Celtæ'. Recruit Legionaries (Latin: legionarius, pl. Caesar dislikes the thought of having robots win a war fought by men, as it defeats the need for sacrifice for the greater good. Greek historians used the word 'Κελτοί', and there's not a lot of debate over how that's pronounced. He likens himself to Caesar returning from his conquest of Gaul and the NCR as the corrupt Roman Senate. Ulysses (formerly) No exceptions were made. Fallout: New Vegas. Elements of the Army and Rangers kept the Legion engaged long enough to allow the most experienced legionaries to enter the city. No, no, no - they haven't yet earned the right to be called "slaves"! Also, despite some rumors floating around the Mojave, mostly between NCR citizens, they are very homophobic, punishing homosexuality with death, if what Jimmy says is true. Those that make the mistake of speaking out about this end up as severed heads on spikes.. Caesar's divine status allows him, in the minds of the Legion, to demand servitude from everyone. Someone mentioned Nero earlier; it's worth noting that all of this happened under Nero's rule and Rome still easily held Britain despite Nero's general lack of... being good as an emperor. In 2277, the Legion faced the NCR at Hoover Dam, in what became known as the First Battle of Hoover Dam. Generic Caesar's Legion military dialogue - The Vault Fallout Wiki - Everything you need to know about Fallout 76, Fallout 4, New Vegas and more! A week? Tribals and their general respect for power over anything else typically side with the Legion over the NCR. Follow 1056. , This opposition is based on Hegelian Dialectics, where the thesis (NCR) and the antithesis (Caesar's Legion) will inevitably form a synthesis at the resolution of the conflict, eliminating flaws and leaving a new quality, with common elements and ideas. Despite Caesar's poor relations with the other factions in New Vegas, Legion currency is still accepted as payment in the Mojave Wasteland, even from NCR merchants, owing to the precious metals the denarius and aureus are minted from. Caesar strictly divides the duties between the sexes in order to fully utilize their potential and optimize the Legion's might. Caesar's Legion - The Rulers of New Vegas - Sep 7, 15 Philosophical Debate: House, the NCR, and Caesar's Legion (Spoilers) - Jul 11, 17 Caesar's Legion vs BOS - Jan 31, 13 Captures lose any claim to the names they called themselves when they let themselves be taken. Centurions make their own armor, crafted from elements of body armor scavenged from felled foes.. Just as Italian doesn't follow Latin pronunciation (and in fact pretty much abandoned case, which is an enormous part of Latin -- thanks Jabby), Old French and Late Latin softened many of the Latin consonants before they entered English. Caesar's 68 reformed tribes attacked the Dam under the lead of Joshua Graham, following a series of deep raids on NCR territory by small groups of skirmishers and sabotage actions by the Frumentarii. According to Chris Avellone's test pen-and-paper campaign, the first fringe unit of Caesar’s Legion was planned to appear as a hostile enemy in the Circle Junction Train Yards. The Caesar's Legion concept was created by Chris Avellone during pre-production for Black Isle's canceled Fallout 3.  Worse for the hostages, they were at war with seven other tribes, outnumbered and bound to lose. For their own purposes, they engage in a variety of horrible practices that others have engaged in throughout history. The pronunciation of Latin in the game is based on classical, not ecclesiastic, rules of pronunciation. But the worst were the headaches, increasing in strength and frequency, affecting his ability to lead. No Mutants Allowed - Your Post Nuclear News Center! Legionaries who fail or disobey orders end up crucified or torn apart in front of Caesar. Caesar actually has plans to create a new world once the Legion plants its flag on Vegas, and talking to him at length reveals he has a surprising knowledge of government and social science, and understands exactly what he is doing and what the results will be, for better and worse. This pattern can be found a lot in history. The legionaries use trappings of Roman culture, but these are not imposed on the Legion's civilian subjects. Child mortality (prior to age 12) was about 60%. It's very important for Caesar to maintain that the Legion is different. Not only would it add breathing room to the amount of detail, but also so that I can go even further in-depth with the factions than in the old post. They have only one purpose: to fight for Caesar until they fall in battle. I think this is a reasonable point to argue, but what Machiavelli wrote about is not directly comparable to what the Legion is. , The focus of the Legion's ideology is survival and long term stability at all costs.  Beyond that, the Legion is opportunistic and will use any kind of technology to further its goals, whether it be using a howitzer to suppress 1st Recon and veteran Ranger snipers or occupying Helios One after the Courier wipes the NCR out with Archimedes I. Radios are frequently used, but overall the Legion opts for devices that use no power to increase reliability. Events in the vein of Tamerlane and Simon de Montfort are going to happen. Because they live to serve the greater good, and they know of no alternatives. House himself admits this. Dale Barton often prefers to trade in Legion territories, saying that he finds it cheaper as he rarely has to hire protection or pay extortionate taxes, due to the effectiveness of Legion suppression of raiders and wasteland creatures. close. To this end, the Legion shuns robots, as they firmly believe that mankind requires warriors and their sacrifice, rather than gadgets that allow for bloodless victories. Although initially neutral towards the player character, Legion patrols in the, A female courier will not be allowed to fight in the arena, regardless of reputation or progress in the game. Fallout: New Vegas; Caesar's Legion Attacks After Pardon Turbo_Toaster. "Yes, he does suggest that. by throwing them over the edge of Hoover Dam) if fatally wounded, to avoid bolstering the firepower of the legionaries. If this became known, the other Hangdogs would demand to banish him and his family to the wasteland. The most obvious example is the name "Caesar" itself, one of the earliest Latin loan words to Germanic languages, which became "Kaiser". , The brutality of the Legion is a major problem for many, but it also brings benefits. , Sharptooth, a member of Hangdog tribe, was planned to be a spy for Caesar's Legion, reporting to their agents in Denver, only because Caesar holds Sharptooth's sister as a slave. Consul: Marcus Licinius Crassus, Power centralized in the Caesar, who is advised by the Legate, and leaders of the Frumentarii and Praetorian Guard, Strict hierarchy of leaders, warriors, civilians, and slaves, Caesar, co-founder and leader of Caesar's Legion, Lanius, second Legate (referred to as the "Monster of the East"). A high reputation with the Legion will lead to a steady cache of Stealth Boys for the Courier.  In the decades that followed, the Legion conquered minor holdings in Utah and Colorado, while the entirety of Arizona and a sizeable portion of New Mexico were brought under its control. What a fucking waste of time! I'm sure individual players might want to engage in ranking atrocities -- something I've never really found was productive in discussions about history -- but Caesar and his crew in the same league as other brutal warlords. It's rare for spontaneous uprisings to happen against conquerors. Most people are easily terrified, especially once they have already been placed in subjugated position. In 2281, it is locked in conflict with the New California Republic at the Colorado River. Many believe that without Caesar, the Legion will fall to in-fighting without someone with the charisma and leadership qualities like Caesar. For Sallow, the Followers were never an inspiring example, their devotion to scholarship too stifling, and their mission of enlightenment too naive. Legionaries are uniformly fast, strong, and extremely dangerous.  Even Rose of Sharon Cassidy has admitted to admiring Legion-controlled areas, as they attract traders, merchants, and wastelander communities in general to their high level of safety, especially when compared to NCR territories and uncontrolled regions. Back at the Fort, I'd have those three half-broken and well on their way. I think Caesar's Legion, NCR and House are the main players in New Vegas' critical path according to the interviews so I guess if you piss off Caesar and the Rangers, that only really leaves the eccentric rich guy who may or may not be the designated neutral karma faction. When history doesn't help him, he doesn't use it. The gear is worn over a tunic. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Caesar%27s_Legion?oldid=3381326, The Legate is crowned as the new Caesar.  Later, when they have been "broken in" and transported deeper into Legion territory, the collars are removed. Conquered men, women, children, elderly people -- they don't spontaneously rise up and try to kill people who abuse and oppress them. No, Legate Lanius is Caesar's second. So the Legion pressing into its established territory would only mean fighting a much stronger opponent; when in New Vegas all they could manage at their height was a dead heat with a struggling fraction of the NCR. If you follow it to the end of the game, it will result in the Legion taking over New Vegas and the wasteland. They can eat a portion of what they conquer. Calhoun was sent back west to warn that Caesar should not be interfered with, while Graham stayed with Caesar, becoming the Legion's first legate. Those three in the pen are captures, nothing more. The Fallout New Vegas Game Guide also says that they're racist against ghouls and super mutants. Edward Sallow was born in 2226 as an NCR citizen. 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